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Joe Biden criticized Elizabeth Warren during an NPR interview over her Medicare for All plan, saying that it cannot be done without raising taxes on the middle class and that he’s “realistic” for not supporting Medicare for All.

Here’s the key exchange:

Rachel Martin, NPR Reporter: “But you’re not nearly as progressive on health care as other candidates in the race —”

Joe Biden:Because I’m realistic. Guess what? You’re going to find $33 trillion in 10 years. And not raise tax? Look, you all are beginning to be little more honest than you have been. You’re looking at now and saying, OK, those of you for “Medicare for All,” you’re going to have to raise taxes on the middle class. You let everybody not answer that question for the longest time.”

I’ll ask you rhetorical question, you can’t answer. Do you think it’s remotely possible to raise $3.5 trillion a year, more than every single penny we spend on every single thing in the federal government on a yearly basis, without raising taxes on the middle class? If you answer that question, then I’m ending the interview because you know it’s not true. You gotta raise taxes.”

Biden has been very critical of both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren’s Medicare for All plan, telling both to “get realistic” during an interview with CNN’s Don Lemon on Nov. 22.

Biden also accused Warren of “making it up” on how she’ll pay for Medicare for All.

She’s making it up. Nobody thinks it’s $20 trillion. It’s between 30 and $40 trillion. Every major independent study that’s gone out there, that’s taken a look at this — there’s no way — even Bernie who talks about the need to raise middle class taxes. He can’t even meet the cost of it,” Biden said during a PBS News Hour interview.”

If you don’t think that Warren will need to raise middle class to pay for Medicare for All, just ask Sanders, who “wrote the damn bill,” as he likes to say:

“Yeah, [we’d have to] raise taxes on the middle class,” Sanders told a CNN reporter after the July debate.

Elizabeth Warren promises that her Medicare for All plan will not raise taxes on middle class Americans, but keeps failing to mention that it would repeal the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, having a huge impact on middle class taxes.

If Warren repealed the Trump Republican tax cuts:

-A family of four earning the median income of $73,000 would be stuck paying $2,000 more in taxes each and every year.

-A single parent with one child making $41,000 would pay $1,300 more in taxes each and every year.

Thanks to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act:

  • A family of four earning the median income of $73,000 saw a$2,000 tax cut.

  • A single parent (with one child) making $41,000 got a $1,300 tax cut.

  • Millions of low and middle-income households are no longer stuck paying the Obamacare individual mandate tax.

  • Utility bills across all 50 states went down as a direct result of the TCJA’s corporate income tax rate reduction.

  • Small businesses saw a tax decrease because of the 20% deduction for small business income.

  • Taxes went down in every state and every congressional district.

 If you want to stay up-to-date on their threats to raise taxes, visit www.atr.org/HighTaxDems.

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